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9/25/12

Open Thread: Revolution

Last night the second episode of Revolution aired. Pretty decent. I really like the set design (sucker for apocalyptic sets), like the flag waving, pro-gun rebels versus evil gun grabbing empire angle they've got going, and it seems like there's going to be plenty of action, which is always a plus. Don't really care for the main character girl or her bo-hunky frenemy guy with a bow, and like all TV shows, there's a certain amount of silliness you're going to have to look over.

But, 2 episodes in, I'm liking it, and a bit surprised with some of the angles their taking. The evils of gun confiscation is not something you generally expect to see coming out of Hollywood, but maybe (hopefully) we are entering into a different time. 

Who else is tuning in? What have you thought about the show so far?

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  1. It is beginning to look like the "event" that shut off all things electric was somehow man caused. This show looks like it has real potential. But.... the fight scenes could use better coreogeraphy.
    Plus, even "farmers" woule have better understanding of basic security procedures after 15 years of trial and error.

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  2. We are watching too and are cautiously optimistic this will be worth tuning in regularly. Last week, NBC rebroadcast it on Wednesday evening, not sure if that will be repeated. Not quite sure where the militia is getting their food, seems like 20 group party and one wagon - seriously ?

    Wife was seriously pi$$ed at farmer dying for defending his property - yes, it might come to that. That deer should have been stashed waaay deeper than in front yard is all we're saying.

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    1. I checked, It is going to be rebrodcast on saturday sept 29 at 7 pm on my cable company.
      Btw, they are making the point of having cars used as wagons to show it is a PAW but they SHOULD strip them down to the frame and have wooden beds installed to reduce the weight. However, most of the sheeple out there would not get it.
      Not too bad for Hollyweird. It has real potential.

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  3. Nobody seems to pay much attention to opsec. The main character crew goes to town even when they are wanted, open flames at night, etc. The fat guy is probably not realistic either, 15 years into the PAW, my guess is that only overlords will be able to put on weight like he is carrying. Even with those failings it is fun to watch and surprising that it is on broadcast TV.

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  4. the show is stupid. Why is their hair always so clean looking?

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    1. Because it's hollywood, even after the end of the world, there will still be cosmetics.

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  5. Looking past all the hillywoodiness of it I think the show has a lot of potential. Being an Eric Kripke creation there will be a lot of story and some pretty big story arcs which I love. I fret a little over it being on NBC as they tend
    To be a little over critical about ratings, so I'm worried America won't give it a chance before its too late. Plus, there has to be hot people, it keeps the non apocalyptic populous tuning in, sorry, sad truth.

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  6. I'm enjoying it so far. Lots of plot holes, but if you're not too picky, its good entertainment. I, too, have wondered how this show got this far in today's Hollywood...amazing!

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  7. It's good entertainment. Will things happen just like that, probably not. I like that they are doing flashbacks to help explain things more. That was one issue I had in the first one, they didn't spend anytime giving us information on what happened in the 15 years.

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  8. I have liked it so far. Love the references to *LOST*. I am put off by how new and clean all of the clothes are and how everyone has nice fresh haircuts. ~grins~ I guess the beauticians are still making a nice living.

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  9. The writer, set designers and wardrobe people have much to learn. Here are some observations from the first two shows:

    1)Despite there being thieves, gangs, and militias, the main character can only seem to find skin tight pants, a low cut blue shirt that does not cover her midriff well and a waist length jacket. So basically she is “too sexy” for her apocalypse. Maybe we can get a scene where she is negotiating with thieves for food in a thong and tankini!

    2)Despite the fact that only 15 years have passed the seemingly dominant militia, Monroe’s Militia, is armed with swords and muskets. Muskets! The US has the most privately owned firearms per person and more than enough ammo to go around. But despite all of this they can only arm the militia troops with muskets. So all of the firearms owned at the time of the outage cannot be found or used, but muskets which are hundreds of years old can be AND there is an ample supply of ball, powder and wad lying around that can actually be used in these extremely old muskets. CHEAP, LAZY AND UTTERLY STUPID!

    3)The ridiculous sword fights are more Dungeons and Dragonesque than anything else and the Bowman who seems to be in love with Too Sexy…well doesn’t he remind you of someone (Think Legolas in Lord of the Rings)?

    4)Everyone is clean and so are their clothes. Seriously, look at the main character's hair. My wife’s hair is shorter and when she gets out of bed she has a whole process to go through to get her hair to look like our heroine's. They are surviving not thriving…make them look like that not like a women about to go on a date. Oh and GoogleBoy has somehow managed to keep his AC/DC shirt clean and wearable o these many years. Was it the fact that he used the “Gentle Cycle” stone in the stream? And is it just me or after 15 years of subsistence living, isn’t he just a bit plump. Probably has a secret hoard of Hershey bars somewhere (Scene Spoiler)!

    5)The Uncle owns a bar (makes sense as I am sure this and whore houses will be the first businesses to open after a TWEOTWAWKI event) and has this mass expanse of space that he calls home, fully loaded with stairs, pillars and iron fire goblets to light the way. Did the prop guys raid the set of Lord of the Rings to get these things? At least in the future they found a way to create fire without creating any smoke. Oh and don’t forget the use of smokeless powder for the muskets. After the battle with the militia when it comes for Uncle the air in the room is so clean you could set up a home for asthmatic patients.

    6)OPSEC- Already stated by others but if that fails you just give the bad guys a bottle of poison whiskey. Cause poison that can kill you in a matter of seconds exists in the future, does not require any highly technical refining and is tasteless so that you can pass it around to a couple of people before you die.

    Food for thought to JJ, Kripke, Burk, Favreau et al., watch the Walking Dead and The Road to see how to create a believable post-apocalyptic set, wardrobe, cast and show. As with NBC’s other fantastic failures (See EVERY show from last season) this too will fail BIG. As with Failing Skies, people will stop wanting to make the big jumps necessary to make the show plausible, become tired of the “sanitized” look and feel of EVERYTHING and move on to…well…just about anything. The scenes, set, wardrobe, plot holes and overall approach to creating a post-apocalyptic feeling are cheap and lazy at best demonstrates the utter lack of knowledge, research or effort made. Lesson to learn: If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing right!

    TEOTWAWKI, can you get a clock on T Blog to countdown until Walking Dead comes back on. The landscape is bleak and ugly, littered with the hollow shells of inferior quality wanttobe shows trying to ride the coattails.

    -DB

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    1. I can actually see Muskets coming back into service. The FOXFIRE books describe how blacksmiths made muzzleloading guns and hamerwelded barrels out of barstock. 15 years of experience and practice would allow blacksmithing to make a comeback. Black Powder and percussion caps are makeable without electricity. Cartridge cases are harder and require stamping and drawing machinery (which can be steam powered). Cartridge cases wear out with reuse and smokless powder is difficult to make compared to black powder. Plus the Monroe "republic" appears to have a rather large standing army force which requires a lot of weapons. standardizing ammo would be a big problem with scavenged weapons. It does bug me that the bad guy is packing a desert eagle. I could see a revolver using black powder rounds as being more likely.

      Agreed, the swordfights need better coaching and the wardrobe needs to be more thought out.
      I agree with you about the lack of opsec.

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    2. Jeepboy,

      I hear you man and what you say makes sense, but no way is anyone going to use or make those only 15 years out. There are so many weapons in America and more ammo than you could need. So only 15 years out there is no way muskets would be used as so many weapons would, from private and military stockpiles, be in the hands of the militia. Nice point, but in no way does it explain the stupidity that the producers are introducing to try to make things look post-apocalyptic.

      -DB

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    3. Add to the list;
      1. How did they walk out of the city with two small children, and almost no supplies? What happened to the rest of the subdivision they were living after 15years,nothing buta culdesac left in the first episode? How did they plant enough grains to feed themselves AND pay spring tribute? No dogs otherthan one small one? A woman living alone in the middle of nowhere and still answers the door? The Army camp with allthe pretty white tents all in neat rows? Ice!! Really?! All the army uniforms that look like civil war uniforms and all the same? Second episode....the girl is seriously nieve!! Let's walk into the city in less than a day. Candles everywhere...made from??? made by???? A chain gang of prisoners all wearing yellow tanktops...sale at walmart?? Huge fields of corn,planted how? Who is feeding the army? Google boy can't defend himself after 15 years? Uhh, what are they eating "on the road"? Jeeezz I could go on and on. Bottom line, great potential but not well researched at all, mediocre writing and bad acting. No reality to a post apocalyptic world. Sad and unfortunate...it could have been so much better.

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  10. I found myself SCREAMING at the TV during the second episode. I'm not really sure if I will watch it anymore. The scene that turned me away the most was when they used an improvised gun, with a very short range, instead of just using the damn crossbow! REALLY?!? SERIOUSLY?!? With the amount of cover available, setting up an ambush would have been child's play. They could have taken out every guard with that crossbow (from 60' to 100' instead of 2!)before anybody realized what was happening.

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  11. Funny how the malitia guy going around killing everybody that owns guns sort of resembles someone in office in our present time? Futuristic?

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  12. As agree with some of the comments and will add some more.

    1: Google guy?? Seriously? How is it that 15 years later the dude is still grossly overweight? No electricity and having to WORK hard to grow your food. Not going to see people built like him.
    2: Main female character! Wearing tight (faux)leather outfit? Not gonna happen. Where is the homespun and dirty clothing?
    3: Dude shot with an arrow gets knocked back 5 feet? I go deer hunting and a well placed powerful shot will go through someone, not knock them back like a crappy hollywood shotgun blast from a cheesy 80's flick.
    4: Muskets? Enough said. Especially when the main militia dude was from a supposed Army special forces unit and should be VERY well equipped.
    5: Black militia guy carrying a Deagle? You know cause either .357 mag or .44 mag ammo is so common AND the pistol is so reliable?? 1911 or a nice wheel gun I could get behind but not a Deagle. Not to mention that every round he fired in the opener knocked someone on their ass.
    6: The group travels across a post appocolyptical countryside with small daypacks? At best they are covered for 72 hours. No hunting, no scavenging on the way to get to Chi-town and see the brother / uncle? Also, for over 20 miles into Chicago, there are suburbs. These would be a nighmare to travel through, but they waltz right into the Loop and into the city.

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  13. I can't get past the whole "everything stopped working" premise. Even batteries? That's a simple chemical reaction. No "electronics" required to mess up.

    And don't get me started on the whole "magic necklace" that powers stuff.

    It's a "laws of physics" thing.

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  14. Probably a Dies the Fire thing, frickin' space alien bats!

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  15. As for the comments about being clean, I'm sure there is still soap and water so I don't find that unbelievable. What I'm not liking is the flashbacks to catch us up to where the show is currently taking place. Why didn't they just start the show at the power outage and go from there? This way is too similar to LOST. Flashbacks are so overdone. I was hoping to see how they managed and learned to do things to survive.(and not in flashbacks)

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    1. Interesting that after a day or two hike in Illinois, during what appears to be the summer, no one is sweating and no one’s clothes, faces hands are dirty at all. So despite building and tending fires, sleeping outdoors, cooking, moving long distances in different terrain and fighting off thieves and murders, everyone’s clothes, hair, faces and hands are clean and neat? Yes, soap is still around but the sort of activity they are engaged would not allow them to maintain the, “I just came from make-up and wardrobe. “ Soap!?!?!?!? Sorry, not buying it.

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  16. Without power to pump water to cool a nuclear reactor, the thing would go critical very quickly. And nobody walks up to a stream to fill their water bottle without doing something to make the water clean. And they sleep in the airplane and no one stands guard?

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