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Dave Canterbury on why he's not on Dual Survival



Edit: Looks like this video is no longer up on YouTube. 

Dave Canterbury (with great humility) talks about some of the reasons why he's not on this season of Dual Survival. Glad he posted this, as I had not gone digging into the subject but knew he wouldn't be appearing. Much respect for the man.

I watched the first episode of the new season tonight, and while new guy Joe Teti is fine, he's not Dave Canterbury, who was largely the reason I watched the show to begin with. I thought Dave did a good job during his two seasons, and did the bulk of the work most episodes, hauling Cody's barefoot self around the far reaches of the world.

While Dave may have embellished some on his military resume, it was Discovery that was happy to run with whatever schools Dave may have attended in the military and brand him as a hardcore Sniper/Ranger. Would Discovery had chosen him had he not highlighted the "cooler" parts of his experience during his initial auditions? I doubt it, given that they're happy weave in every plug that they can for Joe Teti's super awesome Special Ops experience.

It's not like Discovery is not happy to"embellishes" the truth or fabricate outright lies when it serves their ends. Anyone watch Man vs. Wild? How about Amish Mafia--a show that is certainly 100% accurate? A little bit of the pot calling the kettle black, I think.

Anyways, I'm still a Dave Canterbury fan and have oodles of respect for the man. Yay Dave!

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  1. Discovery have Dave a shot at the show based on his resume, but out was his personality and chemistry with Cody that weaned him the job. You are correct about Discovery running away with their embellishments. Anyway what kind of training does Cody have and who is to say that Dave isn't an expert at survival. A far as I'm concerned Discovery got what they deserved, joe sucks. Anybody that passes off drinking urine is not a survivalist but an idiot. Dave your still the best!

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    1. Totally agree. The show seems even more fake this 3rd season. Did you see Joe pull out his knife like a "badass" while looking at the camera right before he killed the boar? I wish i hadn't seen that.

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    2. I agree as well. The show will not be the same without Dave and he knows how to survive. On the show he has shared some great tips if in a situation that calls for survival. Not only that but he would also give you the rational as to why he was doing a technique. Dave you will be missed. No more Dual Survival for me. I watched the first episode of the new season and was not impressed at all. Actually, I was bored and fell asleep half way through it!

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  2. I'm right there with you man. Discovery publishes so much dodgy crap, it's a crime that they are lumped in with educational programming. Dave may or may not have intentionally crossed an ethical boundary, but he is certainly qualified for Discovery's brand of infotainment. It's a shame that things went down this way.

    Anyhow I like Cody better. I came to the show as a big fan of Dave (still am) but Cody grew on me over two seasons, and I think he's got the better philosophy overall. Not that I'll be throwing away my shoes any time soon, but still, Cody is no mere bush-hippie.

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  3. I'm a graduate of the Pathfinder School and spent some intense days in the woods learning from Dave. If it is his intent to pass on his knowledge of woodcraft and survival skills, he succeeded. I don't care if he went to ballet school. Still a fan, Dave!

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  4. Saw the my first episodes of that show today. One with Dave and one with the new guy. It seemed like Dave and Cody were about to fight the whole episode. I've watched Daves YouTube channel a lot and spent some money at his store. Really like the stuff I got from there too.

    If I end up near Dave and have a few bucks I will definitely take a class at the Pathfinder School.

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  5. who the hell hasn't lied on a resume? i know i have. big deal. i've learned a ton from DC.

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    1. HOLY carp, another honest human being.

      I 'massaged' my resume AND my experience for every job I ever got. In 30 years of doing field and tech service and international service and training I never ever was fired for NOT being able to do the job.

      I got fired twice for pissing off the wrong boss!! But never for an inability to do the job.

      At my last F/T job, I trained people with Masters in Animal Science to do Customer Service and Client Training. I got kudos from every one of them. I had only one complaint from one trainee, and she got mad because she thought she was too good to work with me, because despite my having been IN the technical / training workforce longer than she's been alive, my GED, military training, and thousands of hours of tech schools, rep schools and professional experience, just didn't 'match' her [dunt,dunt, DDDDUUUUUNNTTTT] DEGREE!!! Yes, she was quite fond of herself.

      I think that's Dave C's position here.

      Somehow he pissed off the wrong boss ovr something, and now, one of his old work mates, Cody, thinks he's too good to work with someone with 'lesser' credentials. I'd take Dave Canterbury on my '6', any day, anytime, over the Barefoot Guru.

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  6. I will miss the comradery, bickering, hippie jokes, ect....Don't think it will be worth the time now..Maybe Cody should go it alone..
    BUT an Amish wagon full of mini-guns, now that's riveting!!!

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  7. Fact is he lied period, I dont care what survival skills he has. He is obviously lacking in integrity or has some mental problems to just make things up.

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    1. I don't know the specifics of whether he outright lied or just exaggerated/upsold his resume a bit. I would guess it's the latter, and when you're competing for a spot on a reality TV show, I would imagine most/all of the candidates are doing some similar embellishing on their resume.

      Everyone makes mistakes, but it takes humility AND integrity to come out, admit them and take steps to repent of those mistakes.

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    2. After 20 years in the military and another 30 in business including hiring and firing, I'm not sure I ever met anyone who didn't "embellish" his/her experience and skills. In fact I would go so far as to say I bet the camera people, the staff and producer for Dual Survival "embellished" their resume as well. I consider this more along the lines of going 56 to 60 mph in a 55 mph zone. Technically against the law but not even close to something "bad".

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    3. Anon (first one):

      You have lied and so have I. So has everyone else and we have all done so many many times. Most people lie about a hundred times a day. Most of them are relatively benign white lies but we tell them nonetheless. Don't be a hypocrite. The difference here is he got caught and a bunch of people decided to make a big deal out of it. Dave is a great guy and has tons of integrity, but like all of us he isn't perfect. He owned up and apologized and that takes tons of humility and integrity. It takes integrity to do that. It likewise demonstrates integrity for us to accept his apology, forgive, and forget--although I for one never really gave a crap to begin with. Cody Lundin on the other hand has openly trashed Dave Canterbury and gladly helped to stir the up bitterness against him. IMHO Dave has more integrity in one hair of his beard than wack-job hippie Cody Lundin could ever hope for. Just my opinion though...

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    4. He may have told a few stories but in fact he knows his stuff, this comment sounds like its comming from the discovery Vips or Cody himself. I have never missed a show until now, and will continue to choose another channel,every knows the only thing Coty can do is make fire and eat plants.
      Sorry to see you go Dave, learned alot from you.

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    5. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

      "I dont care what survival skills he has" - umm you should since the show is fn called Dual SURVIVAL. Dave rocks. All Joe knows how to do is take his shirt off and make a spear...

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  8. Lets remember what he did and what he did not do!

    He embelished his resume to get the job. He lied to his business partners. That is not good. I don't do that, my wife does not do that, and I have taught my kids not to do that. If you do that you might find yourself apologizing to your wife, freinds, and family (best case scenario).

    Having made a bad mistake, He owed up to his mistake. He didn't cry, he didn't blame Discovery (his employer and business partner), he never bad mouthed Cody (beyond the good natured banter that was part of the show), he stood before his audience, friends, and family, and apologized. Having made this mistake he owed up to it. That tells me he has integrity left.

    I like Dave's work on Dual Survival and I enjoy his you-tube videos. I hope he does well in his school and I would very much like to see him again in a future cable/satelite show.

    Good's Speed Dave!
    Colorado

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  9. I liked Dave before Dual Survival and in fact was sad to hear him say back then he would not be making anymore videos because of his contract with Discovery Channel. He always had good information in his videos and that is what I was looking for. Hope he keeps up the good work. Go Dave!!!

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  10. dave, who cares that you embellished on your resume you clearly know what you are talking about and teaching while filming the show. you are right no one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes....I learned so much from watching you and codi on dual survival - it was such a great show. i am watching it now, let me correct myself, I was just watching and the new guy is horrible he seems like all he wants to do is fight with codi and be right. it's sad because the show is going to fail without you.

    let those without sin cast the first stone. best of luck to you Dave it has been a pleasure learning from you.

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  11. It is more likely that Cody had Dave fired because they didnt get along and the resume thing was there way out. legally

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    1. AnonymousMay 07, 2013

      I doubt that.
      It was a kind of chemistry.. two opposites working together.

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  12. In the genre of bushcraft/outdoors tv, Dave was and is the most “normal” character on the tube. His reactions to Cody’s eccentricity more than anything else, revealed a very, very decent man. He complained, cajoled and teased Cody without ever sounding snotty and Cody responded likewise. Every boy in the world should learn to be more like Dave. On the show, his bush craft was practiced and I never knew him to claim to have a skill he couldn’t put on exhibit. Recall the episode where he turned his hands to hamburger trying to use Cody’s hand drill to make fire or the way he helped Cody along during the mountain descent despite Cody’s lunacy in being in that environment dressed like a retiree visiting the beach in Boca. (My mitochondria can kick your mitochondria’s ass).

    Discover Channel might have just caved in to political correctness, this stupid idea that whoever catches someone at something gets to punish them. The boards I’ve visited seem to always have one or two bitter military guys with big gripes but as I understand it, Canterbury didn’t necessarily lie, he really seems to have just embellished. Another thing, less likely and I hope impossible, is that Cody helped push him off the show. If that’s the case he’s going to pay for it with this bird he’s partnered up with now.

    I’ll support Dave on any show he gets and it wouldn’t hurt Discover to show a little loyalty and gratitude and get him back on basic cable. If they ruin DS because of this and spoil Dave’s tv career, they are some mighty small and petty people. Finding a liar on tv is about as simple as showing up at a tv studio.

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    1. i miss the way Dave did what he did!!!Dave &Codi make a GREAT TEAM!!! so if Dave embellished his background ,he still showed he knows his stuff. BRING BACK DAVE !!!!!! lets all e-mail DISCOVERY to let them know how we feel. sorry JOE,you ain,t DAVE!!!!

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  13. I seem to recall in one of Cody's books, there was a picture of him, maybe wearing a bug out bag. In the background was a house that I thought at the time was probably his real house and not his hobbit home. I don't have the books, can anyone confirm?

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  14. Bring Back Dave, Discovery Channel! That new guy 's ego fills the entire T.V. screen; what a narcissistic bore.
    The chemistry between Dave and Cody was very special and fun to watch. I won't be tuning in anymore, it's just not as enjoyable . Very disappointed in Cody's attitude.

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  15. Dave is the man. I just want to know how Discovery can let go of a guy who personally cuts his own arm open and pours black powder into it and lights it on fire...

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    1. True Dat! Bring back Dave!

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  16. They should never of continue show under the title Dual Survival. It's slap in the face to fans of the show. I really like Cody and Dave together. I learned a lot about survival from he show and Dave's Youtube videos. It's not that I don't like Joe, I think he is very good at what he does, and would like to see him have his own show. I think that Dave is what made Dual Survival successful. Hope Dave gets back on tv and continues to inspire people on how to survive. I do not like the new season, and wish it would be cancelled. I wish Cody luck in his future, if he get his own show I will watch it. Just wanted to express myself as former DS fan. Dave keep on doing what you do brother, you are the real deal.

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  17. dave was awesome, anyone that will light there arm on fire to show a healing technique is serious about buisness. dave & cody were awesome together now joe? hes to dramatic on letting everyone know how good he is & ya that scene where he kills the boar with his knife was pure stupid, he was acting like he was killing the al qaida leader. plssssssss

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  18. Everyone embelishes on a resume.. espesially when your looking at tv stardom. Dave your ausome, the new guy Joe sux

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  19. Dave was the best. The show will never be the same. We sure miss him.

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  20. I agree Dave is the best, all respect to him. The show won't be the same or as good. I will miss him, learned lots from Dave.

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  21. Dave may have made a mistake...he's human too. But, if you watch a few of his videos, you can tell his heart is in the right place. He's welcome at my fire any time.

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  22. Dave was the only reason I watch that show. I do not care if he embellished his resume he was still a veteran. he knew more than Cody ever did plus I am a fellow Ohioían. we grow up in rough country so we learn survival skills. so rock on Dave we miss you and we all still respect you. and I for 1 have stopped watching Dual Survival

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  23. No need to apologize on this.
    Dave has allways been the greater part of DS!

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  24. its all good. whoever is on the show and does survival things in lush places is ok with me. after all if your a true outdoorsman who really cares who you watch doing survival stuff. thanks Dave you helped pioneer a series for us outdoorsman. thanks.

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  25. Dave knows his stuff, no question. And he's not a prissed out douche fruitcake latent homo queen like cody. I watched the show before and still only because there's a real man to act as foil to cody. I know one of these days joe teti will do us all a favor and whip his pigtailed ass. Guaranteed to be the best ratings any episode ever had.

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  26. Whether Dave embellished his resume does not detract from the fact that he was the perfect foil for Cody Lundin. Dave is certainly someone that I would want by my side in a survival situation. He was awesome in the series.

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  27. Lying about such things is treading upon sacred ground. Dave lied. Would he have come clean if Discovery had not found the resume discrepancy and renewed his contract? His apology seemed wishy washy. I'm not convinced. Only God knows. Did Discovery check his background initially? When applying for a job I always include my DD214 describing my military service. I also include copies of my graduation certificates. HR dropped the ball. This should have easily been caught with a simple resume/background check.

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  28. Dave, you're the man. I've learned a ton from watching your video's. Hope you get your own survival show!

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  29. I also miss DC , and cant wait for his new show. I do feel that Joe Teti is a good replacement (not that Dual Survival needed 1) Joe is essentially just a younger Dave.... In season 3 however , it seems as if Cody just sits back and lets Joe do all the work.... Cody needs to shape up (if anything) ... I like Joe.
    And i for 1 welcome him with open arms into the Survival TV arena . I like his "can do" attitude.
    On the whole though , its still a very entertaining show , and i wont stop watching it.

    What we really need is a show were all the survival guys compete . Imagine that ! Bear Grylls VS The Hawkes VS DC VS Dual Survival VS Les Stroud !! drop them each in a remote location and they must spend 4 days staying put and surviving , then they must find their way to a pick up point . I am imagining a 2 hr Special or something like that.... possibly to show the very different approaches each group has

    Lets face it : they are all brilliant , and we have all learned sooo much from all of them

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  30. First off, I respect and thank Joe Teti for his service to this country.

    I'm sure Joe was a great soldier, but that doesnt mean he's a great replacement for Dave. In fact just the opposite. He will NEVER fit in with the spirit of the show. I know too many people with big ego's and closed minds, Joe is just another one.

    I want to continue to learn survival techniques, have a chuckle or two doing so. Sadly, I dont think that will happen much now that Joe's taken over.

    Dave set the pace, Joe cant match it.

    Bring back Dave.

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  31. I miss Dave on DS. I refuse to watch the program at this point, simply out of loyalty to Dave. I do not know anything about Joe because I have not watched the new season. I do appreciate Joe's service to our country and give him my full respect and kudos for that.
    Now lets talk a bit about embellishing on the truth. I know you can watch the "Broke down" episode on netflix. Where Dave and Cody are in Peru. Cody obviously was not 100% when the episode began and quickly succumb to heat and altitude exhaustion. He laid down in the shade and waited for Dave who was left back at the Volkswagen to set a signal fire. When Dave finally reunited with Cody, Cody admittedly wanted to cry because of the relief he felt now that Dave was with him. Dave carried Cody that entire episode as he did in most episodes. Cody makes a statement in that episode while making his sandals. "the last time I wore shoes was 22 years ago".
    , not since the late 1980's. His words. However, on Cody's website, you will see him on the news in 2001 with a news reporter in flagstaff Arizona, Cody's home area, wearing boots in the snow. Waterproof boots, not wool socks. Now the episode where Cody says he hasn't worn shoes for more than 20 years was in 2009 or 2010. My math says he embellished the truth. No shoes in the wild is a ratings booster and that's why Cody is still on the show.
    Here is the link to the news cast with Cody wearing boots in the snow.
    youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i4f5w-kVWgU
    Not sure if this comment box will allow links or not so here is the title of the video you can find it on Cody's website or you tube.
    2001 Dateline NBC Winter Survival Feature

    You tell me if the truth is important to Discovery or if it's all about ratings. Spec Ops and a barefoot survival expert may seem like a good mix, but you can not replace what Dave and Cody brought to our living rooms in personality. I am disappointed in Cody's response to the new series and his comment about now being partnered with a real soldier. Dave is a real soldier and a survivalist and good entertainer and an awesome man. To inadvertently undermine him or his abilities is a breach of decency. That attitude tells me that Cody is a fair weather friend at best.

    All I have left to say is, watch your back Joe, Cody is behind you now.

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  32. no need to ask for forgivness brother, but i do forgive. To me, it is no harm no foul, its all good. You humbled yourself on tv\online..thats hard to do in the world we live in today, people dont want to forgive and judge harshly, but there's only one judge. Love ya Dave

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  33. Great job discovery we realize that the truth is of the utmost importance to you. Shows like The Devils Ride prove it. Replacing Dave with Joe Know It All was a mistake. He may be technically better than Dave but his constant correcting and acting like the big boss are annoying. Dave and Cody worked well together and made a way more enjoyable show. Bring Dave back

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  34. The man cut his arm and then put gunpowder in it and lit it! Hardcore, balls to the wall!!!! LOVE DAVE and miss him. I want a big scrapin' man teaching me survival skills. Not that weinie they have now. That's why I don't watch the show now. Still lovin' Cody, but the original, as usual can't be beat. PS. In this economy I've had to fudge apps too. Life goes on. At least I know where I can find him now!!!!!

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  35. AnonymousMay 17, 2013

    You know, I actually want to applaud him for taking responsibility for his mistakes. How many people do that these days? It's as if saying "I made a mistake, I'm sorry" is a taboo these days. When politicians lie and get called on it, they twist and turn to try and talk what's wrong right again. Same goes for many people I've worked with. It's so refreshing to hear someone say "I did that and I apologize", without adding some excuse. It's called integrity and we need more of it. Dave made a mistake but to me Dual Survival is not complete without him.

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  36. AnonymousMay 20, 2013

    No offense to Joe or anyone else but DS was much better with Dave. I still will watch DS but it is not as good.

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  37. AnonymousMay 30, 2013

    Whatever It was, I respect him more now I’ve seen this confession. It seems that most people agree. He is not a fake guy and that's rare on TV these days. Dual survival was nicer with him and Cody together, more chemistry between those two. Though it seems unfair to the new guy (I don't really feel guilty yet - too much attitude if you ask me-)

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  38. Totally agree with the people here who are saying Dual Survival was much better with Dave. Really really miss him, but I highly doubt they'll ever bring him back onto the show. So sad.

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    1. Dave come back,me and my young son miss you! You proved your skills in the field and survival in real world by apologizing to us.now that's character.you are truly a dual survivor in this real world.call Cody and both of you start making fire again,just like me and my son did together in our backyard making fire starter after one of your episodes.God bless and keep surviving.

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    2. bring dave back please!!!!!!!!

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