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3/14/12

Open Thread: Doomsday Preppers

I haven't caught last night's episode yet, but here's your place to discuss. I may/may not continue with open threads for the next couple episodes.

What did you think of the episode? Anything you learned? Any observations?

17 comments :

  1. The first guy seemed well prepared, but a little cult-leaderish in the way he only seems to recruit teenagers for his survival group, and seemed to bristle at being questioned by the experts.

    Thoroughly enjoyed the hippies though.

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  2. The best setup would be the first guy with the hippies retreat!

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    1. Did anyone else get a strange David Koresh feeling from that guy?

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  3. Watching it now...Tivo is nice.

    First guy has a very good set up. Interesting youth training program he's got going. He's got 'em practicing knife fighting, camo, etc. I would have liked to have learned some of that stuff in boy scouts. I did notice his defensiveness to the "experts", and there was also no post-show update. Kind of odd...

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    1. ..Hoorah for TiVo...
      -JJ

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  4. I loved the Atlas E converted base Ed Peden showed in the episode. He got that for $40K in the 80s. What a steal. There is an Atlas F silo down the road from me that the local school district owns. The LCC is in horrible shape from pictures I've seen and it would one heck of a long term fixer-upper to turn into a livable shelter... if the school district would ever sell it. But I wouldn't mind buying that land, putting a house on it then take a few years to fix up the LCC into a livable space and storage area. I think Peden came of very well in the episode. He isn't the typical fringe type person usually profiled.

    The ex-Marine was an interesting one. You didn't see much of his ranch/compound other than one of his root cellars and his spider-holes. Not sure the purpose of all those spider-holes ( dozens spread over 200 miles!! ). Does he think he's going to be hunted by some group in those mountains if the economy collapses? He didn't like that criticism about the safely of his food. I guess he figures if they run him off in the day he'll come back at night after hiding in his spider-hole and take them out. What if these marauders just come in and steal all his food and leave? But I guess he's figuring on his Lord of the Flies crew to come join him when the SHTF and help him keep it secure. To me if the dude keeps the fact he's a prepper with a huge store of food on the down-low then he could probably avoid anyone in the area trying to raid his place if things really ever got that bad. But everyone wants their 15mins of fame I guess. I think all he did with his spot is probably get the parents of these teenagers worried about the kind of guy they are hanging out with. The loner living on a 200 ac ranch all by himself apparently and wears nothing but camo 24/7.

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    1. Lord of the Flies, (LAMO). My kid wouldnt be there!

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  5. I would love to wear camo 24/7 and live on 200 acres! I love this show, but only a few look well prepared to me. A few of these people are in Utah where I live, and the 72 hour kit and food storage preparedness are pushed pretty heavily around here. Getting some great ideas from the shows though. I really like how everyone is storing their rice, wheat, and legumes in the 2 liter bottles, this way you don't have to open your whole storage container to get 2 cups out.
    Guns, guns, guns. I cannot express how important it will be to have the ability to protect your family, food, and water supplies. Good for the gunnies!

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  6. First, please keep the threads alive. I enjoy reading the comments, good or bad.

    I am still annoyed that NatGeo still uses Practical Preppers LLC as their only source for expert assessments when there are plenty of real world experts and Practical "Thinkers", not so called "expert" consultants such as P.P. LLC. I've looked at PP LLC and Scott Hunt's Bio, and yes he has a Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering and what looks to be like decades of experiences in all ways of "farming"?
    Read between the lines NatGeo, a life long Boy Scout/Eagle Scout would have the same or more survival skills than Scott Hunt. I've got a lot of experiences in other practical skills, but this doesn't make me an expert. Previously having several people on the show from LEO's (Law enforcement officers) to Military/Combat Veterans who have dealt with real life scenarios of dis-order, riots, civil unrest, desperate people, and being in HARMS way, Scott Hunt could never comprehend the fear, disipline, and mindset to endure through until it's too late. So, with that said, my conclusion about the assessments are that they are generic answers which an average outdoorsman, camper, hunter, would see as common sense. The "Expert Assessment" should be removed from the show, or include other assessments such as from this Blog's Alex Wolf. I've learned several new things from Teotwawki blog and refreshed some old things I'd forgotten about because of this site and I don't have to pay for consultation.

    Ex-defense contractor/Marine Recon Scout Doug Huffman: Very nice, large 240 acre property, well dug in, and supplied. Looks like Sierra School of Survival had more people there than just him and the kids, so others are involved, also check out their website under seirrasurvival.com pretty well done with multiple courses for adults and children. I'd go there before even thinking about Practical Crappers LLC. In his line of work, the physiological warfare of sniping one to two individuals each day is nerve racking. As a combat vet. who served in Light Infantry and as a Combat medic, this is one of the most agonizing, feared, combat situations. I've seen people lose all composure when life is threatened from an un-disclosed location. His training is designed for guerilla warfare (stick and move) which PP LLC would not even comprehend the tactics, or disipline it requires. High speed, low drag Mr. Huffman.

    Dreams...oh the horror. Way too much drama, but funny. Still decent preps for the Canadian family. Don't know how long they would be able survive in those row style housing system. Neighbors are too close for comfort, but gotta work with what you got. Glad they realized they need to arm themselves too.

    Drum circles anyone? Nude hot tubbing? Nothing against hippies, but the hippie movement in the 60's was dealing with mostly actions away from the United States. That mentality, sorry to say, won't last very long when it's in your own backyard. Loved the Atlas E silo compound though. A lot of space to work and sorry about that fancy new wood door..I would burn it down to gain access. Peace.

    -JJ

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  7. Love the tough-guy marine. As far as I know the Kalifornia government has castrated most weapons to 10 rounds, assault weapons need fixed mags etc. Is that why the airsoft? He's screwed just because of the weapons aspect. MOVE! Now.

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    1. I don't get him patrolling his ranch with the camo'd airsoft. They pictured him with a shotgun at points...which I also don't get.

      If you're going to play camo'd guerilla sniper, you would want a sniper rifle, right? And you can have a perfectly capable bolt action sniper rifle even in Commiefornia. Doesn't add up.

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  8. Maybe "Spider Hole" had an arsenal of weapons that we are just not privy too?

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  9. Really NATGEO why waste the film showing a gun running around with an airsoft rifle then shooting his shotgun. I'm sure some people were fooled

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  10. Personally, I've gotten bored with the show.

    If the only exposure I'd ever had to the concept of prepping had come from this source (like it maybe does for many of the viewers), I'd get the impression that preppers were mostly a wide variety of whackadoodles and it might be pretty hard to see through the hype to some serious thinking and consideration.

    Not worth the 60 minutes a week it requires to watch it. Bleah.

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  11. College PrepperMarch 17, 2012

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/12/arts/television/doomsday-preppers-and-doomsday-bunkers-tv-reality-shows.html?_r=2

    I can hardly think of a way to respond to this without swearing. It appears that fears of what the show will do to how we appear to the public were accurate.

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  12. In previous episodes following the expert assessments of each prepper, there was always a commentary 'downplaying' their reason for prepping in the first place. You know, they somehow explain away the economy as being solid or on the mends, the remoteness of any possibility of a super volcano and so forth. Did I miss it or did they actually leave that part out of this past episode? I don't do TiVo but perhaps someone else can comment or share what they saw there.

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    1. I DVR each episode and have reviewed it. It was left out for some unknown reason. As to the above comment with the URL to the "NYslimes". There will always be someone who "POO POOs" anyone who does what should be done to protect themselves, their Family, and the USA which is GREATEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET. Not sure why...the GOVt has been "Prepping" for any scenario one could think of for years......... I get the "Koo-Koo" button pushed regularly from family and friends when I talk about the show DDP. Those who call us all crazy will be the EXACT ones begging for food/water when TSHTF.

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