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2/26/12

The Walking Dead Open Thread


Here's your place to discuss tonight's episode of the Walking Dead, 18 Miles Out. What's the fallout from Rick and Shane's conflict? Thoughts on how they handle the prisoner? Other reactions? Anything that got you thinking? Let us know!

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  1. Geez, really?!?! When is Rick finally going to get the deed done and kill Shane? Enough already!!! Did anyone else catch the preview where Shane and Andrea were still plotting against Rick?

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    1. yeah, that was irritating. i dont think rick would shoot shane, but there is deff a chance of him and andrea being "bannished" told to leave, start their own colony, what have you. I mean, if i was in shanes position, with his mentality, i wouldnt even see the benefit of sticking with the group. If hes just going to kill everyone he doesnt like itd be just as if he left the group in the first place.

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  2. RomeroNJulietFebruary 26, 2012

    The theme for tonight's episode: open wounds!

    Rick made a good call trying to use knives and conserve ammo. Obviously, in Zombieland, one would never use a gun when a knife (or crowbar) could do the job. However, why one would gash his own hand in order to attract a walker is beyond me. Couldn't you attract plenty of them just by talking loudly or making kissy sounds?

    If I were living in this world, being a bit of a germ-a-phobe, the fact that this virus is 100% fatal would never be far from my mind. I picture myself scrambling from ruined house to ruined house in search of purell! But here are Rick and Shane, beating the tar out of each other after stabbing a couple walkers. Did they wash up first, did it even occur to them? Suddenly they are overrun, tired and bloody. Not only are they that much more attractive to walkers now, but they are more prone to infection, as any person with basic medical training can tell you.

    Obviously, Rick and Shane were going to come to blows in the episode. The fight scene was exciting and the fact that Rick left the area gave Shane a taste of his own medicine. Trapped in a bus, with no support, Shane could easily have been killed, and he knew it. The fact that Rick returned will foster trust between them, or deepen their rift. However, from a tactical standpoint, this episode seemed full of flaws (obvious even to me).

    Couldn't their time have been better spent doing a thorough walk around the gated area? They burned precocious fuel to get there, so they should make the trip worthwhile by bringing some nice swag home. They knew from the get-go that the place was inhabited by at least two walkers, so they had to assume there were more. Why not try and clear the place of walkers before they started scavenging gas? If they actually planned to abandon their prisoner there AND provide him with scavenged supplies, shouldn't they walk into a few buildings and scope the place out?

    The mark of a "bad-ass" in pop culture is the guy who lets the blood dry on his scalp wounds while he broods behind the wheel. In this case, it just seems ridiculous. Still a great show...

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  3. Does anyone else get the feeling that the zombie virus is going airborne? The two they killed in the lot didnt appear to have any wounds and I know there was another hint to it in another episode just cant remember at the moment..also I think that is what Jenner said to Rick, warning him that the virus would go airborne.

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    1. yeah, I suspect that's what they were tying to suggest in that shot. I hope it doesn't simply because the close up zombie encounters are badass, and they won't keep doing it if it necessitates killing off a character every time.

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  4. Plus they got awfully bloody fighting and stabbing those zombies AFTER they had open cuts!!! I had a friend that had a scratch on his finger and got some snake venom in it by accident that he didn't even know that happend, that thing swelled up three to four times what it was and turned black, he spent 7 days in the hospital before they decided he would not loose his finger or hand. Now I just have to believe that zombie blood is 100 times worse than that so the cutting open and leaving blood has to be the dumbest move yet!!!

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    1. The virus is probably spread though saliva, not directly through blood, although they zombies do do an awful lot of drooling.

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    2. RomeroNJulietFebruary 27, 2012

      Yup. When Shane was making his last stand, the smeared blood on the door frame, where a walker came very close to licking it, then smeared fresh blood from his wound on top of the older blood. All while stabbing, point blank, with his hunting knife. Our survivors are getting pretty cocky about the virus. We've come a long way from "Let's not risk cutting away the parts of the deer that were chewed by a walker."

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    3. My wife pointed out Shane putting his thumb in his mouth on the drive home. You're spattered in zombie guts and putting your hands in your mouth? Not a good idea.

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  5. i was thinking that since they burned some walkers and they went and saw walkers burnt corpses and walkers with no bite marks... its spread through the smoke. also someone please tell me what happened in the end my dvr cut off 15 min early:( i last saw rick with randall looking at the bus...

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  6. What I got from this episode : RICK IS AN IDIOT !

    Tacking the boy to the farm was idiotic, leaving him alive now that He knows where the farm is even more stupid.

    Does anyone with 2 brain-cells would't doubt that the kid will spill the beans to his gang of MZB ?

    I was actually rooting for Shane on the fight, because Rick is the kind of idiot who get everyone killed because of his high horses.

    There is no obligation for Shane to follow Ricks orders, last I checked nobody elected him leader, and He have been making dumb mistakes, He could have got Him and Shane killed.

    If they kill up Shane, this series is going to suck hard, and yes : I think Shane is better than Rick.

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    1. It does go to show why saving the kid was a mistake. They've put all kinds of effort into patching him up, then almost got eaten this episode, and it looks like next episode the group is going to go through all kinds of conflict while Daryl tortures information out of the kid and then they decide if they want to kill him or not.

      I'm with Shane on this one and not sure why Rick needs a "night" to sleep on it. The kid is a threat, can't prove that he's not a threat and they cannot allow him to join the group.

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    2. Reluctantly have to agree. Kid seems like he is willing to pitch in but in this environment trust extremely tough to earn and takes a good long time. Seems like he has no useful skills and is, well an 18 year old hot shot with more balls than brains. Should have left him to the walkers. I had high hopes for the kid but it seems like he is Walker Chow.

      -DB

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  7. Where the hell are the missing people!!!!! We have not seen anything of the gang the kid is from and there is obviously someone living in that bus and more than likely thay have a kid, notice the shot on the car carrier?? Now I guess the two zombie cops could have been in the bus but who knows, maybe they used that lantern at night in a bus with windows and thats how the zombies got them. I think in the next episode or two a lot of survivors are going to turn up.

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  8. Good episode. Some great moments - Rick laying down the law and Shane acting like a scolded teenager. The brawl between Rick and Shane. The Rick/zombie dog pile. RIck's internal strife about leaving Shane, then his ride to the rescue, guns blazing.

    Shane and Andrea are clearly alienating themselves from the rest of the group--we'll see continued conflict and potentially a division of the group. Were I in Rick's shoes, I'd consider working the division into the structure of how the group operates--one "squad" led by Rick, another "squad" led by Shane. Shane and Andrea work well together, so let 'em work together. People who don't get along (Rick & Shane, Shane & Dale, etc.) should not be pushed to work together if there's other options.

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  9. The look in Shane's face as Rick and 'hostage' walked away from the bus - priceless! How did it feel to be in THOSE shoes ?

    Rick surprised me though, I wouldn't have thought him capable to doing that but I guess a couple punches and elbows to the head can do that to a man . . .

    I agreed with Andrea's solution, as cruel as it was. The girl couldn't be babysat 24/7/365, SHE had to make up her mind to survive or die.

    Good show.

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  10. I am pretty sure they all already have the virus. There are just two ways to get the disease i.e. two strains. Direct contact with fluid will make will turn you into a zombie, but how did the first zombie happen? It would seem all are carriers of a different strain as well. Also, how did it go through the entire world in just a couple months from just one zombie? I imagine the 'carrier strain' was government created and accidental, and swept through the planet. As people across the planet started dying, zombies sprang up all over. Before people knew what was going on, it was too late.

    As for Rick and Shane, it comes down to a difference between making the safe and efficient (survivalist/military) choice, and the moral one. At least that is the dichotemy I see them tryng to create. I think Shane may try to take Rick out, and get himself killed by another in the group. I don't see any of them being at the farm for season three either. The recipe is set for them to be forced to move on to another place.

    Good blog btw. I enjoy it.

    Rah

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    1. I would bank on they all have the virus to start with anyone. It could very well be something that is harbored within them and is only activated by a trigger.

      I don't know that we will see the group kill the kid. We see from the next episode that he is going into the barn and stuck with Daryl (personally I think he would have been better off if Shane shot him).

      Also - for someone who recently had a large fence pipe stuck through his leg before it was forcefully removed, he seemed to be walking rather well once he cut those ropes off this feet.

      I think we'll see the other group show itself in the next 3 episodes and it will lead to the cliff hanger at the end of season 2. Season 3 will kick off with the group response and we'll see them moving on from the farm again. we know they can't stay there forever.

      This coming Sun should be interesting to see. Will they kill the kid??? I don't think so personally.

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  11. I thought it was really refreshing to see the show start to get away from the wandering around the woods and hanging out on the farm that most of this season seems to have been. It is starting to get back to what made me watch it in the first place.
    Also, I know the basis for the virus in the comics, and I am seriously excited to see if the show stays true to it, or deviates from it. I won't spoil anything, but I think we're getting very close to finding that out based on what happened in this episode.

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  12. I think it was interesting that Rick accepted what Shane did to Otis. He even said that he would do whatever it took to keep his family alive. The fight between them was good and it had to happen. I thought that might change Shane's perspective now that he had acceptance on the Otis killing, though from the preview it seems he is still against Rick.

    I think Andrea did the right thing. You have to want to survive in those circumstances otherwise you're a drain on everyone else.

    The kid saying he knew Maggie was a good twist. Personally, at that point, he has to go. It sucks, but he knows where the farm is and he is more dangerous to the group than anything else. Morality changes in those kinds of situations.

    I do agree with others they are becoming complacent with their sanitation around the zombies. But overall, it was a good episode.

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  13. I know that it's a TV show and they have to keep things moving. It would be pretty boring if all anybody did was lay around trying to heal, but...

    This hand-cutting business. And those weren't small cuts either. Ever cut your hand and try to do anything with it for a while afterwards? Not to mention the almost guaranteed followup infection.

    And.. the fence post they pulled that kid's leg off. Did you see the arrowhead design on the point of those posts and the freaking size of same? It would literally rip the flesh to the extent of it being totally unusable (probably for the rest of your life) to pull a leg off a post like that. Not to mention the absolutely guaranteed massive infection from such a thing. Ever try to pull a teeny fish hook out of your arm/leg/cheek/whatever? Yet here's the kid running around like it was nothing shortly afterwards.

    Nawwww.

    Okay, realism isn't the main premise for the show. Zombies, after all.

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    1. I agree on the hand thing, I've cut a couple tendons in my life and the hand was pretty much useless until i gotvit sewed back...without proper medical attention you'd be screwed. Even if you were able to heal without infection, if the tendons were cut, the hand would be crippled. Crippled hand in zombieland equals death. Wounds in that situation cannot be taken lightly, survival from a serious wound can be done, but the odds are stacked against you.

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    2. Zombies arent real!?!? What the hell am I gonna do with all this ammo now?????

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