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2/21/12

Doomsday Preppers Open Thread

Here's your place to talk about tonight's episode of Doomsday Preppers, entitled It's All Gonna Hit the Fan.

Good, bad and ugly, leave your comments here!

30 comments :

  1. the pandemic lady really was ticking me off.. the trucker was respectable, and the Florida family had the right tactical idea, but all of the featured "reasons" for why they prep are completely ridiculous!... you don't prep for any specific tragedy or over-dramatized occurance, you prep so that you can re-gain some element of control over your lifestyle. weather that be home-growing to prevent GMOs from getting in your body, or having a bug out bag in case you suddenly need to leave home in a hurry, all that is second to the knowledge you have in your mental tool kit. anything physical can be taken away from you; by the government, by thieves, by panic-stricken citizens, what you have in your head is yours to keep.

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    1. I think the prepper's "motivations" are the #1 reason many of the preppers come across as whackos, and I'm pretty sure it's mostly contrived by the producers.

      Some of the featured preppers--pandemic lady, especially--are another case and appear to be solely focused on one scenario.

      I liked the trucker, too. And the guy with the ready-to-go BOB at Sportsman's Warehouse.

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    2. Caveat: IIRC SouthernPrepper1, who had been on the original Doomsday Preppers last year, indicated that the producers require that each "prepper" or "group" select only one scenario that they are prepping for to be evaluated on.

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    3. than that being the case, the producers are doing their show a tremendous dis-service. it seems to be irritating people more than drawing them into the show.

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  2. I definitely agree about kinda-OCD pandemic-lady .. could be very good stuff to have stored- that can happen too, but if everyone who works at the grocery store is down with H1N1 or whatever, a sandwich and a few cans of beans could come in real handy as well..

    A shaman-teacher once presented the idea of "hunter's eyes". If you put all your attention on any one spot, because that's where you expect the deer to be, you may not notice the bear eating your lunch out of your backpack.

    Expectations kill.

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  3. Yeah, I agree. The only decent one in the bunch, IMO was the trucker, but I have to say, he has a pie-in-the-sky idea of "restoring" trucking after a collapse? Seriously? With a gravely ill wife? All right...

    Pandemic lady is a freak show on wheels. Watched her family reacting to her insanity and even THEY were a bit put off. I was so sick of her that by 5 minutes in to her segment I was making cracks about her OCD.

    The Florida family are seriously off base they kept saying "pole shift" but what they are talking about is planetary axial shift. Different bird. The magnetic poles move, and since 1904, scientists noted an approximate shift of 9 miles a year. Since 1989, the drift of the magnetic north pole has accelerated to about 35 miles a year in the direction of Siberia. This has zero effect on the weather, tides, water etc. Massive flooding of coastal areas will not happen if the magnetic poles continue to shift. Sorry, science is pretty clear on the matter.

    Florida boy and company should have done better research or had better vocabulary to express why they prep. As it stands, they lost all credibility in my eyes. Good for them they are prepping. Other than the trucker, I feel dumber for having watched tonight's episode.

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  4. After Doomsday preppers (which I always enjoy to some degree) was over, I watched "Dawn of the Dead". This subsequently motivated me more to prep than the preppers show.

    I feel like there's been a steady decline in the show, from the first episode this season till the show last night. I'm interested in someone doing something different or innovative (or at least something we haven't seen on the show) to prep; Instead of just stockpiling.

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  5. Great points from all comments. The truck driver might have seen "The Postman" one too many times with the idea of restoring the trucking industry, otherwise I commend him on the mobile prepping. However, I would have a trailer available as a mobile command center/shelter somewhere in his vast route to be able to drop his load and retrieve his mobile command center so if fuel becomes an issue with his tractor, he can set up his trailer somewhere. This would require him to purchase some kind of raw land somewhere.

    Pandemic, very possible, but that lady was over the top IMO. She was driving me to the point where I was about to don my N.B.C. gear just watching the segment. There are ways to be precautious and not OCD, everyone needs germs and bacteria in their bodies. You start messing with those things and you create a weaker immune system and some of the smallest/weaker viruses can kill you. Still need to see that people like that are out there. This is a TV show remember.

    Being a person living in the Jacksonville area and always concerned about Florida being America's hurricane capital; plus a state that was mostly under water at one time, finding higher ground is an important subject here in FLA. I have been looking myself for raw land within a 10 hour drive from my home, not for the Axis shift or Teotwawki, but for that one Hurricane that actually comes for the Jacksonville area. We've been lucky the last few seasons when it hits South of us and bounces to the Carolinas'...but one day it will come directly at us. I don't plan on up-rooting my whole family and moving to "Little House on the Prarie" since I enjoy my job and friends, but I will have a place to bug out when the un-named storm approaches.

    As for the show, I enjoy watching what others are prepping for and of course the producers of ANY television show will control most of the content and how it will be edited. But I've gotten some good ideas and some things I shouldn't do by watching D.P. This show is fun and entertaining...with the right spin I could make the Pope and Mother Theresa look like nut cases...
    -JJ

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  6. I am getting increasingly irritated with the “experts analysis” of the possibilities of the different scenarios happening.

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  7. Agree with you Sean,

    WTF and who are these so called "Experts". Every line they put out is the same canned line about event probability which basically boils down to: "Do not concern yourself with this type of catastrophe sheeple, it's not going to happen so you can go back to sleep now.

    The "expert" economists have said every time, "the likelyhodd of the US experiencing an economic crash is very small. Every frickin time. Ass hats.

    /rant

    I actually turned the show off when Ms. Ultra OCD got about 40 seconds into her spiel. Dizzy clown was madder than a hatter.

    I'm not watching it anymore. To much effort put into making preppers look like nuts.

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    1. You guys do understand that the average, mainstream economist DOES think that possibility of total economic collapse is pretty small. Go find any economics professor at a reputable school and that's what they'll tell you.

      The problem that I have is that they force the preppers to choose some obscure scenario, make 'em look a bit obsessed/crazy throughout the segment, and then point out how much of a long
      shot something like a polar shift or Yellowstone explosion is. It's setting the preppers up to look bad, and it's either gotten progressively worse or just become more apparent over the past few episodes.

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    2. Most of us would make lousy "reality TV" participants. "Well, something bad might happen. I might lose my job, my car might break down in the boonies, It might snow really hard for a few days, one of those tanker cars of formaldehyde might derail, and I'd need to get out quick." just doesn't have the popular media-appeal of "When the Mutant Zombie Bikers show up, I have this surplus chain-gun from an A10 Warthog to fight 'em off".

      NatGeo used to have a bit more journalistic integrity, but now it's all just lowbrow entertainment alas. Hmmmm.. if a prepper married a Kardashian sister.......

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    3. Jesus Christ, you can get the GAU Avenger gatlin gun from an A10 on surplus now....holy sh$tballs...why hasnt anyone said anything about this until now!!!! Where do we get them????? Ok, Ok I know, just kidding....but seriously, if they ever do go surplus, let me know.

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    4. I want that gun too with my morning cookie :)

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  8. The truck driver said, "If currency inflated by over 1300 percent, what use to be a dollar for us you'd need 1300 of those for the same buying power."

    It'd actually be $13.

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  9. I wish the florida family had just said they were prepping for a hurricane. National Geographic seems to be having a great time labeling all of us as insane. I don't understand why they're making people only pick one of the things they're prepping for to focus on. I live in Arizona, and I would like to think that I'm getting ready for a wide range of things from a foreign invasion, to cartel violence, to a shutdown of the power grid or an economic collapse. Do I think any of these things will happen? No, but I'm sure as hell not going to be caught unprepared by any of them. Bring on the zombies!

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    1. It's not hard for Nat Geo to label us as crazy when they broadcast that people like that kook with the pandemic fear.

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  10. did anyone notice all the hi-points?? whats going on with that?

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    1. Definitely high on the hi-point count. Made sense for the trucker guy--they basically live out of their truck and his wife is severely ill, so I don't see them as having tons of excess cash.

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    2. I concur with TEO/Alex on the use of Hi-Points, I myself am a S&W fan with many S&W weapons plus other makes for disposable usage. One is an older Hi-Point 9mm that I got new for around $115.00 plus 2xtra mags back in the day. The Carbine models are acually very good for their price point and use cheap pistol ammo, plus if you have a pistol & a carbine in the same caliber (9mm, .40 S&W, or .45) you can use the same magazines in either weapon. That's always nice for practicality. I've fired about 1000 rds through my Hi-Point with some FTEs and FTFs but nothing too serious. These guns are inexpensive and simply made (simple blowback design), top heavy slide (so no limp-wristing), and they do have some problems. But for new ones running $165 (pistol) and $215 (carbine) these make great Bug out Bag, or Just In Case weapons that you won't mind ditching if you need to. I'll have to pick up a carbine when they go on sale again for $189.00.
      -JJ

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  11. Well looks like everyone is very negative about the Pandemic Lady except me :/

    I found the segment the lady interesting, because for all her excessive prepping and Natgeo effort to make her look like a kook, she made me think that you should have some basic preparation in case of a Sanitary emergency and not just for the ZOmbie Killer Flu.


    A Sanitary Emergency kit of masks, gloves, some pair of plastics suits, disinfectant and a set of disposable plates, would be great not only to protect yourself from infection, but also to handle a family member you might be sick. A small kit instead of the Monster insane OCD thing she had would have been enough has part of a bigger prepping strategy.

    The trucker was interesting too, but It would have been nice if He prepared a TEOTWAKI trailer He could hook up with in case of need, giving him a full container has house and storage space.

    NatGeo is still trying to make everyopne look like Kooks and nutters. What a shame.

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    1. I agree--she's got some good ideas, just needs to remember moderation in all things and the importance of diversification.

      The trucker guy did mention having supply caches set up along/around their travel routes. Probably not fully loaded prep trailers though--that would be pretty cool.

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  12. PreppedButHopefulFebruary 23, 2012

    I concur with most of the comments above, particilarly about the poor OCD pandemic lady.

    But I REALLY agree with Pamba's concluding line, NatGeo IS trying to make these folks look unstable, out of touch and needlessly worried about infinitesimally small risks. I am seriously starting to wonder if that is the point of this entire series, to make preppers or those with a "prepare for the worst, hope for the best" mentality look loonie. Homeland Security put out a report that profiled potential domestic troublemakers as something akin to preppers. Is this series a further effort along those lines? Is there going to be some point where the US Government publicly says that prepping=bad, notwithstanding the FEMA TV. commercials of the past couple of years.

    I am not one to subscribe to conspiracies but the NatGeo producers, instead of highlighting prepping as smart "insurance" planning, are doing a bangup job of making those profiled looks a out of the mainstream.

    Off to buy more 5.56.

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  13. I seriously think pandemic lady isn't a prepper. She's just someone with some serious germophobe OCD. Did she even have any food or water stashed? I was so distracted by her OCD, that I don't remember if she had any. I still say anyone who's a "Professional" economist who thinks the economy is safe and stable IS the NUTJOB on that show.

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    1. I think she had some food and water, they just didn't really mention it until the "expert assessment" part.

      There's a difference between safe and stable, which few economists would say about our economy right now, and on the brink of an economic crash of apocalyptic proportions. The mainstream view of our economy is that it's crawling back from the brink, vulnerable but growing slowly.

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  14. Personally, I have a problem with what NatGeo has done here. The truck driver was clearly placed into a situation to impress the TV people. When he purchased the cammo netting did you see his expression when he saw the $400+ plus bill? Who knows what he hauls, heck, it could be a bunch of lamps or even useless crap from China that he would be 'protecting'. A real survivalist would take a look at the load, if it's crap, dump it, and now have a better shelter or unhook it, push it over on its side and you now have a wall for a defensive position.

    I'm upset that NatGeo clearly put this guy in a position to spend $400 when his wife was clearly sick. Truck drivers don't make a lot of money and when fuel prices go up they make even less. NatGeo should be ashamed for what they did.

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    1. Sportsman's Warehouse does have a pretty good return policy!

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  15. ...I see that Discovery Channel is joining the party with a new series called "Doomsday Bunkers". From the previews it looks similar to Doomsday Preppers other than the fact bunkers and the usage/building them are involved. I hope they are more open minded to the idea of Readiness/Preparedness than NatGeo seems to be. If they do the show right it will gain a lot of followers based on people wanting to learn more than be entertained. Plenty of shows out there to entertain me.
    -JJ

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  16. Better off just watching 'The Walking Dead' :)

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  17. I have watched all of the shows, one major things i see in peoples food preps is the many canning jars they use, especially in the episode where the guy was prepping for the global apocolipse of the polar shifts where there will be many earthquakes etc, most of his food they showed was in glass canning jars with no protection from them falling off the shelves if there are eathquakes, I live on the west coast and have been thru several earthquakes, one thing I know is that anything on the shelves ends up on the floor, thus much of their canning jars will be knocked down and busted, the shelves should have lips or 2x4's across the front so the jars will not come crashing down or at least have them on the floor on bottom shelf.

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