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6/5/13

Question: Anyone actually have any caches?

Survivalist types like us often talk about caches (pronounced like cash, not cashay). There's plenty of information out there on how to build various kinds of caches. Some pretty good YouTube videos on various sizes of caches. And, I'm 100% support of them as a great survival tactic--we talk a lot about diversification as a guiding principle, and that's really what caching is all about. We're not the only ones who cache stuff, either--special ops guys cache stuff, intelligence agencies cache stuff--it works.

For the neophyte, a cache is a concealed supply of resources to help aid in survival. We often hear about caching guns and ammo, but that's limited scope in thinking--lots more could be totally reasonable. Typically, caches are concealed by burial, ala buried treasure, but that doesn't always have to be the case. Jason Bourne's anonymous safe deposit box, loaded with currency, fake IDs and a pistol was most certainly a cache.

Anyways, I was curious to get a pulse check and see, for all the talking in the community at large, how many in the T-Blog tribe have caches or have experimented with caching gear? Not even necessarily the bury it in the ground kind.


I get the general vibe that, while we talk about 'em a lot, few have actually put one together. Limited funds and resources probably to blame - putting a few hundred bucks worth of gear into the ground for a low probability event can be a tough pill to swallow.

So, keeping opsec in mind, anyone actually gone down this path? Have any good caches out there?

27 comments :

  1. Yes but it's building supplies. There is an old cabin in the woods and a mine shaft near it. Supplies to re-roof the cabin and run a pipe to the mine shaft (there is a spring in the mine).

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  2. It's easy once you put your mind to it. "Hey mom, I'm going to drop a couple buckets of food and stuff off at your house in case there's a bad snow storm or tornado or something. Don't open the bucket unless there's an emergency, it won't keep if you do."

    Now you have a cache.

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  3. AnonymousJune 05, 2013

    No. The plan is to stay put unless bugging out is absolutely necessary. It's easier to shoot zombies from a well defended position than exposing yourself on the road.

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    1. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

      What happens if you are overrun some night by a superior group and they take all of your supplies? It would come in handy to have some caches buried somewhere in your yard.

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  4. AnonymousJune 05, 2013

    Yes. 4 BOLs and caches every few miles....food, water, and weapons. 1 location 3 miles away, a place 12 miles away, another 40 and another 100 miles. The bug outs are set for the long haul...the caches are buried 5 gallon bucket with enough for several days. If my family knew they would have me commited!

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    1. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

      Sucks if you die in the intial SHTF scenario and the family is without the knowledge. Of course, I am in the same boat. If I told my wife about the cache's I have for the family she would use them, sell them or complain about them. Hoping and praying I never need them but also hoping I am around to tell them where they are if we do need them.

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    2. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

      I have A SHTF set of binders with maps and directions...they know I have these " journals " and they know I have pm's so if something happens to me they'll hit those first looking for the pj's.

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    3. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

      I hats auto -correct! PM'S!

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  5. AnonymousJune 05, 2013

    I think I need to clarify ...the family know about the locations: 2 are vacation properties and the other two are run down homestead shacks on farm properties we own. The family know nothing of the caches or the amount of.provisions I have stored in out buildings ..
    Oh well...somebodies gotta do it!

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  6. AnonymousJune 05, 2013

    Thank You!!! For printing the proper proununciation of cache!! It just drove me nuts during the Iraq war when the military and the media would mispronounce it when they found a weapons cache. You would have thought at least the media would know the proper way to say it.

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    1. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

      Media getting something right!?!?!?!?!? You would think a professional military would use the work right. But then we’re paying them to locate, close with and destroy the enemy by fire and maneuver, not wordsmith with the media idiots.

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  7. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

    Very limited supply, a couple of 5 gallon bucket type of basic supplies (tarp, hatchet, cordage, multi-tool and various wiring) for a 'we lost EVERYTHING' type of event. Haven't worked up the courage to store a firearm - heard too many horror stories of finding them rusted beyond use.

    When I was building our home, I wish I had thought of storing a wrapped and heavily greased handgun and putting it in a concrete block cavity near a house corner. When or if needed, a hammer could have been used to break it out inside or out.

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  8. When it comes to caches I think we can get too narrowly focused to only stuff buried in the ground. A tuff box full of gear and food in Dad's barn is a cache. A couple guns in the basement of a buddy who you visit and sometimes go shooting with is a cache. A rental storage locker a mile from home (or in a neighboring town, whatever) that stores Christmas stuff, off season sporting goods/ lawn stuff and in the back has some gear, food and a couple of hidden guns is a cache.

    In that explanation is a combination of things I have done, am doing or will do.

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    1. Agree, Ryan. Important not to get narrow minded when we think about these things - and I think all of the above are great examples of alternatives to the old bury a PVC tube in the ground.

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  9. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

    Sorry this is long, but this is actually a broad question. If you have stores in both your current and bug-out location, then you effectively have a cache. May I make a quick suggestion? In your own home and even in your bug-out location, use one or both of these strategies taught to me: disguise or split up your stores. Splitting goes beyond having the 1st Aid Kit in the bathroom (why do people keep it there? I don't.) and food in the kitchen. This would be something like having a pantry where you keep opened or the next container of each food, then having a food storage room--closed, but somewhat accessible for restocking--and also having a hidden food storage room, maybe with your longer term supplies, or the supplies that go beyond a certain times worth (like 3 months or a year, depending on your dedication). Disguise would have to do with location and perception. That 3rd location may be "hidden" by a bookshelf over the door, or by appearing to be a closet in someone's room, etc. Also, if you are not blessed with a custom-built home or one with such room, you can split and disguise at the same time by using furniture as storage locations. Under the bed with a bed skirt, under the side or hall table with a table cloth, in the top of closets in totes labeled "clothes" (such as the opposite season clothes, or the next size up for little ones) or "decorations" (Christmas, Halloween, whatever). I have done some of these and know that every one of them has been done. Of course people take and modify or re-assemble the ideas as they work for them. I think these would all be caches, if non-traditional ones, because they allow a degree of protection from theft or damage, due to multiple location and "hidden-ness."

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  10. I have several but only I know there locations depending on if something happens to me there locations will be distributed to those who will put them to good use by a code which only those intended will know the meanings.

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  11. I dont have one....yet. Where do you recommend I start? with what? and stash it in the car? the parents? at church?. Many of us dont have the funds to be squirreling around with all sorts of caches (pun intended!)

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  12. I want a cache (is it seriously that hard to pronounce that word. Maybe it seems so simple because I was home schooled :) ), I know where to put a cache, I know what to put in a cache, and I know what to put a cache in. I just haven't gotten the time to do it. Part of the reason though is that I don't have any food or water stores yet. But I am working on that.

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  13. I keep a lot of the 'redundancies' in my detached garage. If the house goes up in flames, there is a chance that the garage may survive. When my folk's house burned, my mom lost a whole lot, my dad, not so much. My dad's stuff was in the garage & barn, which both survived unharmed. He lost more after the fact due to theft than during the fire.

    I am building a raised hugelkulture bed, and it's getting the now 'cliche' PVC pipe cache with a set of the 'basics' & documentation vacuum-packed. This will be located in a way that a minute of extreme violence against a spot will grant easy access & not disturb much of the bed. Just in case the garage does go up in flames with the house.

    I keep conveniently 'forgetting' a bag at my folks every time I visit. Funny thing is it's one of two bags, and I always forget the other bag than what I just picked up. (Keeps the kids clothes in the right sizes.)

    I am thinking about a 'tote exchange' with a friend for a cache. We'd be in mutually advantageous directions. I'd pitched the idea once, but he wasn't ready yet. This post made me think of the idea again.

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    1. Mike -

      I like that idea--a tote/bin exchange. Most of us don't just have a massive amount of extra, unused storage space (that'd be nice though), so the favor exchange gives both some parties some value.

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    2. Some discussion with the wife about the garden cache. It is ALSO going to be a 'time capsule'. A lot of the 'documentation's are effectively a time based snapshot of where we are in our life right now. What little money would be stashed is going to be current-year denominations, to honor the 'time capsule' concept.

      A note explaining the time capsule & some possible ways to contact me if it's ever found when I am not at the property (it may intentionally get 'forgotten' when I move).

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  14. I've been kicking around the idea of caches for quite some time now (in the traditional buried PVC fashion). It's been suggested to bury somewhere where things are not likely to change and landmarks are easy to identify. There are two water towers on my bug out route. I was thinking of burying somewhere in the vicinity of each of these towers because the area is not likely to change and I could come up with a landmarking system that works for both (i.e. 50 paces from the West side post), but I have worries about OPSEC in an area I have no ownership or control over. I also see if the right TEOTWAWKI situation were to present itself, those water towers might become very popular locations, making retrieval nearly impossible. Would appreciate thoughts regarding this.

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  15. AnonymousJune 06, 2013

    I haven't the resources to start large Caches. I'm starting to think that a cache with any useful supplies would be better than nothing. A .22 pistol, a change of clothes, boots and enough food for 72 hours would be the contents.

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  16. AnonymousJune 07, 2013

    I think this is actually the essence of caching - what you have described here. I would recommend a way of purifying water as well. Depending on the circumstances, ammunition might be more valuable than the pistol (if you would already be carrying one), but that is up to your personal circumstances. Some also recommend storing a little bit of cash - like $50 in small bills, or maybe a roll of quarters.

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  17. AnonymousJune 07, 2013

    I live in the Rockies and its legal to shoot up here in the national forest. In doing so I've identified 3 locations in which I will stash some goodies. One is an old Forest Service cabin way back in the boonies near the top of a remote mountain. The other two are mountain locations that are within 30 miles of my home. Funny thing is at my job every office has a lockable storage closet so I have a good bag there as well. If you don't have the guts to store a firearm how about a survival bow? Dave Canterbury promotes one that is on my wish list for July. It folds up nicely and performs very well! Just a thought.

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  18. I move around a lot. I have 3 caches in places that I think I might be able to fall back to. They are more orientated for escape and evasion

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  19. Kind of late to this party, but my question is what locations would you use to bury a small cache? Unless you know the owner, seems like it could be considered vandalism. Damaging someone's grass in a car accident for example leaves the responsible party liable for damages if they wish to pursue. Not a moron, I get the concept of keeping it quiet, but since my job requires me to keep a clean background check and part of my SDHTF plan is my pension, I want to keep my job. :)

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