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10/12/12

More Signature Apocalypse Weapons!

More new & excellent entries into our signature apocalypse weapons photo contest! Keep the entries coming! We want to get as many as possible. Enjoy.

Remember, there are great prizes from Choate Machine & Tool, Vigilant Gear, Tom Bihn and Red Dirt Stock Works and us here at T-Blog are up for grabs! Check out their websites and give them your support for helping make this contest possible!

Entries after the jump!



From COBB:

 
Journal Entry #32… 

It’s been over 40 days since the collapse…  I think our decision to stay put and fortify our homestead was our best decision…Others nearby haven’t been so lucky. My wife and I have been well off with our supplies, and all those years planning and canning have paid off. I think she understands now why I pushed her so hard at the range and in the woods. It’s nice to have the help when trouble comes.

We just recently had to fight off a few marauders trying to sneak onto the property. They were well organized this time.  We used up a lot of ammo during the firefight so I wanted to make a quick assessment of our remaining supplies. We still have plenty of supplies stored in the house and in our scattered caches. But in case we have to leave I'll plan on these items……

Lewis Machine and Tool M-4  (5) Mags of .223
HSGI Body Armor
Springfield 1911-A1(4) Mags
KA-BAR with Last Ditch Survival Kit
RMJ Tomahawk
Smoke Grenades
Only (2) Moltov Cocktails Left

My Wife’s Remaining Gear
AK-47 with (4) mags 7.62x39
IFAC Kit
Dead –On Breaching Tool
Machete
Glock 23 with (4) Mags of .40 Cal

From M.P.


   This is my "Zombie Apocalypse Ass Kick'n Suit". I keep it ready at all times; as any day now the dead will rise up and try to eat all our brains out. I have a gas mask and boonie hat on my head to keep airborn zombie contaminants and zombie brain fluid out of my face. On my back I keep duel samurai swords for a silent method of sending the undead back to Hell. My main weapon is a Sig M400 5.56 with extra mags in my tactical vest. My back up weapons are a Glock 30, Glock 27, and a Sig Mosquito all with additional mags in the vest. For close quarters combat I have, on my belt, a large bowie knife as well as a Gerber machete for endless head chopping and other zombie butchery. On the inside pockets of the vest are a small first aid/ survival kit (not shown in photo) as well as 1 cyanide capsule; just in case I am infected.My knees are protected with AWP knee pads, cuz nothing would ruin an apocalypse like a scraped knee! On my feet are my trusty ass kick'n boots laced with 550 paracord. My camo should keep the walkers from seeing me and I plan on removing a zombie scent gland from my 1st kill and rubbing it all over my body so I will not be detected.  Lastly I have my copy of The Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks. And if all my weapons fail me, I am sure my years of cage fighting training and awsome ninja skills will see me through the hellish zombie filled future to come...

From MiCamp:


The picture I am submitting shows the exact weapons I would carry with me in the event I had to face zombies, TEOTWAWKI, or TSHTF. No matter the occasion, this is my gear of choice. I numbered everything for ease of identifiction more for me than you out there in the blogosphere (I am kind of dense) I have always been the kind of person that just goes for what works best munis the bells and whistles, I mean if a club will get the job done, wht try to improve on success right... anyway, here is a description of my go to weapons, garaunteed to get the job done first time and every time.

 1.My AK47, kind of a hybrid that I made using components from a couple different makes of rifle, including a Romanian, Bulgarian and Yugoslavian. After several hundred rounds at the range I feel more than confident that this battle rifle will take the crap and keep on spitting lead.

2.This is a 3 magazine pouch, loaded with three 30 round magazines for the AK, giving me a total of
4 30 round magazines when I need to get the work done. The nice thing about this old pouch is that it will ride at the waist on more than one kind of belt.

3.This has to be my most favorite firearm of all time, the Tokarev TCC, I mean wow I never leave home without it. The nice thing about the hefty 7.62x25mm round is that if a LEO happens to be a zombie and he/she is wearing body armor, this round will slice through it with no trouble at all. And I always carry 2 magazines, don’t want to come up short when I need it most.

4.These little babies are my first line melee weapons, 2 swords one a little shorter than the other. They are all steel with a wrapped handle and I keep them in a back slung sheath and razor sharp.

5.My next melee weapon is a 17 inch fighting knife. I pride myself on my knife fighting ability, I trained hard to be as competent with a knife as I am and would not have second thoughts about taking on anyone or anything with this baby in my hand. The blade has been drawn on, more of a distraction than anything else.

6.After getting everything ready to go, and strapped onto my body where ever it rides best, I throw on a chest mounted ammo harness with 240 rounds of 7.62x39mm. this is for the quiet times in my zombie hunting/defending moments, while I reflect on the days events I can reload my 4 magazines to the top and be ready for one more day of fun and games.

I have worn this exact set up on several occasions, and fine tuned where everything goes and how best to access all of it, after all, everything has a place and a place for everything. As a PS for everyone, snuggled down inside the last pouch in th eleft of the harness is my PSK and entry from a couple contests ago, never leave home without it!!!

27 comments :

  1. Me likey the Tok 33 there, for some time, very inexpensive ammunition (corrosive but the price - GREAT!) in a proven combat pistol design. A pair of those pistols and two 1080 round crates of ammo for less than $600 - thats some goodness right there!

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  2. MiCamp,

    Hate to burst your bubble, but the 7.62x25 pistol round will not defeat IIIA soft body armor. For the sake of argument if it was capable then the pistol and ammunition would be prohibited to import under the law. It is currently also a felony to possess any armor piercing pistol ammunition that is capable of defeating soft body armor. Now if you do not believe me fine, just better for us who wear body armor daily!!!

    COBB,

    Like it!!

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    1. 7.62x25 IS a better penetrator than most pistol rounds. Example vs. a kevlar helmet. But yes, it will not get through IIIA.

      If I remember right, the ban on armor piercing pistol rounds is for ammunition specifically designed to pierce armor - for example, steel cored ammo like seen on the 5.56mm SS109. Ability to pass through a specific level of armor doesn't seem to be the factor - for example, 44 mag will punch through common type II vests all day long.

      This document contains the definition that the ATF goes by.

      BTW - fun research topic while chillin' in the hospital!

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    2. that is true Alexander, this pistol has always been called the Russian flame thrower, because it is a very hot round, and it is the configuration of the round nosed bullet and the amount of energy pushing it, plus the round seldom rolls after impact. the addition of a ceramic or steel plate will defeat it, I think but not sure on that. one would think that armor that defeats a 30.06 would be safe, but not against this WWII era round... oh and did I say the ammo is cheaper than dirt, 14.00 for 70 rounds surplus.

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    3. I have only seen a few test where 7.62x25 failed to go through IIIA rated armor.

      I didn't watch the full video with sound, but I'd be suspect on the quality of the armor used in the YouTube video you linked to...age, quality, etc. are all combining factors when looking at kevlar. Old kevlar layered together in an improvised pad is not the same as a new, factory-made kevlar vest rated to IIIA. Have not seen anything of that sort. Certainly not impossible, though. Lighter armor and its going through. Rifle plate will stop it dead though.

      But ya, agreed that the 7.62x25 has some very interesting qualities. A PPsh-41 Papa-Shaw would be a good companion!

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  3. hi 3rdman, not sure you are exactly right on that, in fact if you look at the rounds they use to test that soft armor, I think you will notice that the 7.62x25mm has mysteriously been left out of the test data sheet. I'm not an expert, never claimed to be, that said, you will be hard pressed to locate body armor stats that have put up against that round, and I may add for good reason... just saying

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    2. I watched the video and the panel they used appears to be the trauma insert that comes with soft body not the body armor itself. Now with that said if the bullet does have a steel core and does in fact go through soft body armor than you are in possession of illegal armor piercing ammunition as defined under title 18 of the U.S.C. The fact that it may have been imported by mistake does not void the fact it may be illegal to possess. In Texas you would be looking at TDC time for possession of it under section 46.05 Texas Penal Code, which is a 3rd degree felony. Can you say good by to ever legally owning a firearm again!!

      From Title 18 of U.S.C.

      The classification of all ammunition is governed strictly by the definitions presented in the GCA. Specifically, as defined in 18 U.S.C. Section 921(a)(17)(B), the term “armor piercing ammunition” means —

      … 1.a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
      2.a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.



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    3. Also one more thing MiCamp,

      Thanks for your service!!!!!

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    4. thanks 3rdman, that's why I wrote a company and asked them to explain why they ommitted the Tok ammo from their test data. I posted the return letter. I just know it is a round that the soldiers serving in the ME now worry about, several have told me it was armor defeating and I could not believe that about a pistol round, I mean I knew that vests stopped 44mags, so why this round. I just think it is one of those weird combinations of power, ballistics and the shape and characteristics of the bullet after striking an object. anyway I do appreciate your research and info, I can add that to the info I have gathered myself.

      Thanks
      Mike

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  4. in fact for all you doubters out there, watch this test against level III body armor, if you come up against a Tok, run like hell. sorry hate to be the bearer of bad news... just hope the bad guys don't ever notice...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTg-TgEpUm0 that is exactly why people love this round, ask any GI about facing it in the ME, they dont like it at all

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  5. Just aim for the head and body armor shouldn't be an issue.

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  6. Guess I am doomed !!! I pray it does not come to this

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  7. I think a 7.62x25 M1 Carbine (the little one, not the Garand) would be the bee's knees, but I don't know bupkus about chamber pressures and if the action could take it.

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  8. to try and close some of this. I emailed a majopr body armor maker, here is what was written back to me copied from my email;

    Dear Michael:

    That is not a round the NIJ has in the certification for Level III-A, but we have tested our Level III-A Premium Aramid vest for that round. It stopped it, but that round is higher velocity and does push Level III-A armor close to the limit for blunt trauma.

    So higher velocity loadings, hardened steel core ammo, etc., etc. could defeat Level III-A armor - it's not a round we would guarantee a stop on

    The safest thing is to wear a Rifle Plate if that threat is likely.

    Thanks,

    Nick Taylor

    General Manager, ArmorUP L.P., dba BulletProofME.com Body Armor

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    1. Cool - that's about what I would have guessed. Points for the extra digging.

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  9. Oh GOD, The "F"ing zombies will all starve to death in the time it takes to put that crap on. WTF you fighting the Third World War? Fire fights are O-V-E-R in less than 4min. Thats how long your basic load(ammo) lasts in contact. Thats right cherry, in hevy contact 10 mags. go FAST. Back in the day we figured that The 800rd with our M-60 team gave us just egnough ammo to break+run like hell for the LZ. Toss those 40lb plates ;AMMO AMMO AMMO then water, food, meds,BOK, sox and clean skivies. Leave the rest of that WOW bullshit home,You'll never use it. If you think CHEM/BIO is realy a hazard,then sure, bring the MOPP gear. BUT; just remember that every pound is carried on your back and after the first 10 miles even 40lb SUCKS.

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    1. So angry. This must be really important for you to get so worked up.

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    2. A bit silly to get mad over this - obviously a fun, mildly tongue-in-cheek contest. Some people may be posting up their *real* loadout, others emblishing with the occasional katana or two.

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  10. well cherry, I was there too, so don't try to teach me something I already know cherry, 1969 USMC, I dont need all your advice about how long a fire fight last, been in a few myself and they lasted a lot longer than 4 minutes. and as far as humping the gear, dont weight much, and I did a few force marches myself, so your criticism is unwanted and unwarranted... if you want to wander around in a daze with one mag go for it, I know what works for me, you dont have a clue what works for me. and PS this is light weight compared to what I carried back in the day and I wear this gear regularly just to stay in shape.

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  11. Hey "Anonymous" ...thank you for your insight and knowledge on combat and our supposed "lack there of". We appreciate your input. And we are all pretty sure no REAL zombies will come to take our brains. We are having fun in an online contest that deals with creativity and survival. Hope you enjoy.

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    1. yeah me too, pretty cool. But I think Cobb has a little something for every possibilty, like to redundant protection deal.

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  13. after all the prep to make sure I got a good pic of my apocalypse gear the one thing I left out, one thing that I feel secure wearing, my Vietnam era flak jacket. I know it is by no means bullet proof, and it is heavy but I remember how much more secure I felt wearing it back in the day, though many times I wanted to toss it away because it was so damn hot. I still dont know why it makes me feel secure but it does. I will post a pic of it on FB anyway though it missed this contest... I love the old thing wish I had the inserts for it though.
    this is turning out to be a great contest and I know everyone is as excited about it as I am, I love seeing other peoples gear.

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  14. Wow...I love that pistola. Didn't know they could shoot the 7.62 round. Does this increase the the accuracy range? Do they sell those in the US? Is it legal? I gotta get one!

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    1. yeah, they sell them here and they are pretty cheap as pistols go. not sure about an increase in accuracy or range, I mean there are a lot of great pistols out there that probably do much better on accuracy and possibly range as well, I really don't know. it shoots good at 70-100 yards. yes they are legal, they are Russina WWII weapons I think. just look on the net, it is a Tokarev T33, or Tcc.

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